Episode 2

Gavin Harris, SMS Environmental: The clarity of science

In this episode, Lawson meets Gavin Harris from SMS Environmental who discusses a range of issues from finding his way in early life to running and growing a successful business with over 200 employees.

The conversation touches on the current business environment and challenges with resources and hiring in a competitive market. We find out how being sincere and honest can go a long way and how business, and government, can learn a lot from a scientific way of thinking.